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    • New thread started as you & LFI suggested.  It's best to have one ticket per thread, if not people get confused about which ticket they're giving advice for. Firstly, you have every right to be absolutely fuming at MFG.  You go twice and spend money - and what do you get?  A demand for £100!  Do the people who caused this mess resolve it?  No, they lie and mess you about.  No wonder you're so angry. However ... we're worried you’re leaving yourself open to accusations of theft (even though you made it clear the goods would be returned) and criminal damage.  If you take the initiative and approach the garage politely, (a) that covers yourself at least a bit regarding any possible criminal accusations, and (b) if the manager has a brain you two can easily sort everything out. I say if the manager has a brain.  They might try and play the hard case and stupidly put the blame on you.  Who knows. Anyway, how about sending this 1st class post on Monday?   Dear Manager, I am the person who temporarily took some non-perishable goods from the BP shop on Wednesday and left a letter. I have since calmed down and am writing this letter in a friendly, amicable way between adults without abuse or at all costs apportioning blame. What happened is that some time back I visited your premises at 3.15am to buy fuel.  I then revisited at 8.30pm the same day to use the shop. Afterwards I received an invoice from Euro Car Parks for £100 (discounted to £60 if paid within 14 days). What happened is that the ANPR cameras joined the two visits together and ECP issued the invoice for me staying an absurd 17 hours.  I mean you provide a good service but who would stay 17 hours! If you Google "double dipping" you will see that this is a continual problem in the private parking industry and the industry’s own Code of Practice highlights how steps should be taken to avoid issuing invoices in these cases. When I brought this to MFG's customer services' attention you refused to have the invoice cancelled.  I also visited you and again you were unhelpful. Please "take a step backwards" and put yourself in my position.  Say you visited a supermarket on a Saturday evening.  You also visited on a Sunday evening. Later you got a demand for £100 from a private parking company.  You politely asked the supermarket to intervene but they refused.  I think you would consider the matter unfair and you would be extremely angry with the appalling customer service. Anyone who has even a rough knowledge of the law knows that ECP are your agents, you called them in.  You are the organ grinder.  They are the monkey.  You can easily tell them to cancel this invoice. So i am writing to request an appointment with you in order firstly to return the goods which are yours and of course which I should never have taken.  I would like us to be able to speak in a friendly, adult manner. However, secondly I am not prepared to take all the blame for this matter.  I also request confirmation from you that you have had this unfair invoice cancelled. Yours,
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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5 hours ago, cjcregg said:

It's not that I don't agree, just didn't understand that's all.

 

 

 

 

 

I suppose I could have linked to our RSS feed but that just tells you the headline and links to the BBC article. I thought I would link to the BBC directly.

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Channel4 News have got hold of a leaked database used by the Trump campaign in 2016. Their report says that the campaign set out to deter millions of black voters from voting for Hillary Clinton.

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-trump-campaign-strategy-to-deter-millions-of-black-americans-from-voting-in-2016

 

For anyone who saw The Great Hack on Netflix, this is a tactic that was used by Cambridge Analytica/SCL and Alexander Nix.

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1 minute ago, honeybee13 said:

 

I suppose I could have linked to our RSS feed but that just tells you the headline and links to the BBC article. I thought I would link to the BBC directly.

 

If thats cjcregg whining, theres been a number of links and a video

Its his fault if he has chosen not to see them.

 

.. errr no difference there then eh?

Not everyone elses responsibility to dance to his twisted tune

 

 

BREXIT - Massive Costs, None of the Benefits

Could be worse - could be Farage

Putin apologist and Fifth column mouthpiece for profiteering anti-British interests

Funded by drug money launderers, foreign interests and the global elite

privately educated. Hitler Youth song singing, Thatcherite stockbroker” who welcomed Liz Truss’s mini-Budget as the ‘best Conservative Budget since 1986’” 

 

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Yes was flipping between panorama and c4 news

 

trump is going to throw the dirty tricks book at this election

 

wrong thread - butPanorama has actual detailed examples of the utter farces of people testing negative and their contacts being chased a week after any lockdown (which was not needed) would have ended, and being actually told they need to lockdown until the week before the call they were speaking on

 

 

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BREXIT - Massive Costs, None of the Benefits

Could be worse - could be Farage

Putin apologist and Fifth column mouthpiece for profiteering anti-British interests

Funded by drug money launderers, foreign interests and the global elite

privately educated. Hitler Youth song singing, Thatcherite stockbroker” who welcomed Liz Truss’s mini-Budget as the ‘best Conservative Budget since 1986’” 

 

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no TV where I am at moment

BREXIT - Massive Costs, None of the Benefits

Could be worse - could be Farage

Putin apologist and Fifth column mouthpiece for profiteering anti-British interests

Funded by drug money launderers, foreign interests and the global elite

privately educated. Hitler Youth song singing, Thatcherite stockbroker” who welcomed Liz Truss’s mini-Budget as the ‘best Conservative Budget since 1986’” 

 

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Haven't had a TV at my place for years .. do at o/hs - including my still  fabulous screen high end plasma that was just sat in a corner doing nowt  here.

 

 

BREXIT - Massive Costs, None of the Benefits

Could be worse - could be Farage

Putin apologist and Fifth column mouthpiece for profiteering anti-British interests

Funded by drug money launderers, foreign interests and the global elite

privately educated. Hitler Youth song singing, Thatcherite stockbroker” who welcomed Liz Truss’s mini-Budget as the ‘best Conservative Budget since 1986’” 

 

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David Carroll who appears in the Great Hack was on Channel4 News. He asked Cambridge Analytica for the data they had on him and never got a very full answer. Channel4 News has the information and found David's file.

 

I'm shocked by how much detail they put together on him and millions of US citizens for the Trump campaign in 2016. How much of this is happening in the UK?

 

 

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brexit party outspent the tories and labour together on targeted social media 'promoting various lies I seem to remember and people from there still are

examples

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-says-no-idea-18775071

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/07/smash-and-grab-dominic-cummings-democracy

 

Just google boris johnson Cambridge analytica Nix

 

Of course they simply claim that evidenced claims of their  own manipulation and lies are manipulation and 'false news' as we see on forums such as this by their 'followers

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BREXIT - Massive Costs, None of the Benefits

Could be worse - could be Farage

Putin apologist and Fifth column mouthpiece for profiteering anti-British interests

Funded by drug money launderers, foreign interests and the global elite

privately educated. Hitler Youth song singing, Thatcherite stockbroker” who welcomed Liz Truss’s mini-Budget as the ‘best Conservative Budget since 1986’” 

 

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Trump v Biden debate

 

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000007365697/presidential-debate-live.html

 

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BREXIT - Massive Costs, None of the Benefits

Could be worse - could be Farage

Putin apologist and Fifth column mouthpiece for profiteering anti-British interests

Funded by drug money launderers, foreign interests and the global elite

privately educated. Hitler Youth song singing, Thatcherite stockbroker” who welcomed Liz Truss’s mini-Budget as the ‘best Conservative Budget since 1986’” 

 

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I've read reports on the debate and watched a couple of clips. I thought it was awful and agree with the commentator who said there shouldn't be another two like this.

 

The Fox News moderator didn't come out of it well either, as he couldn't control the infant-in-chief. Someone suggested they should turn off Trump's mike so that Biden could answer.

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agree with all that HB,

but biden certainly didn't excel, and difficult as that is with a garbage spouter like the bean stain coloured Trump, it is what he needs to be able to not just handle - but show up as the spoiling garbage it is. Grown ups don't win by allowing spoiled children free reign in their tantrums.

 

Admittedly the host failed miserably, but Bidens preparedness was clearly sadly lacking.

 

BREXIT - Massive Costs, None of the Benefits

Could be worse - could be Farage

Putin apologist and Fifth column mouthpiece for profiteering anti-British interests

Funded by drug money launderers, foreign interests and the global elite

privately educated. Hitler Youth song singing, Thatcherite stockbroker” who welcomed Liz Truss’s mini-Budget as the ‘best Conservative Budget since 1986’” 

 

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Hicks must be sleeping with both of them ...

 

:-0

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BREXIT - Massive Costs, None of the Benefits

Could be worse - could be Farage

Putin apologist and Fifth column mouthpiece for profiteering anti-British interests

Funded by drug money launderers, foreign interests and the global elite

privately educated. Hitler Youth song singing, Thatcherite stockbroker” who welcomed Liz Truss’s mini-Budget as the ‘best Conservative Budget since 1986’” 

 

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So, when does his program of bleach injections start ?

BREXIT - Massive Costs, None of the Benefits

Could be worse - could be Farage

Putin apologist and Fifth column mouthpiece for profiteering anti-British interests

Funded by drug money launderers, foreign interests and the global elite

privately educated. Hitler Youth song singing, Thatcherite stockbroker” who welcomed Liz Truss’s mini-Budget as the ‘best Conservative Budget since 1986’” 

 

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ah remdisvir - not bleach or any of his other weird 'cures'

 

I'm surprised that he wasn'tv on remdisvir anyway ... or maybe he was

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BREXIT - Massive Costs, None of the Benefits

Could be worse - could be Farage

Putin apologist and Fifth column mouthpiece for profiteering anti-British interests

Funded by drug money launderers, foreign interests and the global elite

privately educated. Hitler Youth song singing, Thatcherite stockbroker” who welcomed Liz Truss’s mini-Budget as the ‘best Conservative Budget since 1986’” 

 

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BREXIT - Massive Costs, None of the Benefits

Could be worse - could be Farage

Putin apologist and Fifth column mouthpiece for profiteering anti-British interests

Funded by drug money launderers, foreign interests and the global elite

privately educated. Hitler Youth song singing, Thatcherite stockbroker” who welcomed Liz Truss’s mini-Budget as the ‘best Conservative Budget since 1986’” 

 

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